Tales of the Decades of Darkness #1: An Old Eagle
Credit for this post goes to Rekjavik, who wrote all of it apart from a few editorial additions.
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25 November 1941
Brugg, Duchy of Aargau
German Empire
Karl Eymer knocked at the rather plain door, and waited patiently for someone to answer it. The time dragged on for longer than he would have expected, but he could wait. Der Adler had carried several of his interviews with famous people; his personal favourite was his revealing chat with the actress Liesa Graebsch.
This, though, was something altogether different. He had never interviewed someone of such importance. A sign of his boss’s trust, he hoped.
After a few moments, he knocked again. This time, a maid came to answer the door. She looked barely thirty, if that. “Who are you?” she demanded.
“Karl Eymer. I have an appointment with Herr Schulthess.”
The maid looked coolly at him, as if to say, “And so?”
Eymer cleared his throat. “I’m a reporter from Frankfurt, for Der Adler. Herr Schulthess has agreed to an interview to discuss recent events... and anything else of interest.”
The woman nodded. “Please come with me.” She led Karl through the house.
The décor was much simpler than he had expected for the man who won the greatest war in history and redrew the map of the world. He would have expected that such a man would decorate his house with treasures of conquest, or at least some ornate signs of wealth. Edmund Schulthess was far from a poor man, but his house did not show it. Karl caught glimpses of a few rooms as he passed: a study with a full bookshelf that filled an entire wall; a dining room dominated by a single large table; and a conservatory with large windows that revealed a stunning landscape beyond.
The maid brought him through to the garden. Schulthess sat there, wheelchair-bound, reading a book. The former Chancellor looked to be on – or rather, off – his last legs. Hardly unexpected for the man who led Germany through its darkest days since the Second Napoleonic Wars. The weight of that struggle would have taken its toll on any man. Karl had done his research; he knew that Schulthess was 73 years old. It was a miracle that the man had lived for so long.
When Schulthess slowly raised his head from the pages of his book, he seemed more like a grandfather than a world leader. Yet appearances could so often deceive. This was the man who had overseen the Great War, and in its aftermath founded the Greater European Economic Union and overseen the breakup of France, the ancient enemy. Most infamously, he had signed the Treaty of Warsaw.
“Ah, Herr Eymer, I hope you had a comfortable journey. Fresh air never hurt anyone, and it must be a change from the air you find in Frankfurt these days.”
“A very pleasant journey, thank you, sir. I hope I’m not interrupting anything important.”
“Nonsense,” said Schulthess. “These days, I have all the time in the world. Retirement has its privileges. Can you imagine me having time to read anything by Goethe in 1929? Now, I have his whole collected works on my shelves, waiting to be discovered one by one. And many other authors await my pleasure. I’ve only recently discovered Grillparzer’s works. I never found time to read the War of the Clouds in my childhood.”
Schulthess paused, then said, “Anyway, let us begin.”
Karl took out his notebook and pen, ready to write quickly when he needed. Shorthand was so useful. He glanced over at the River Reuss while he collected his thoughts.
“Firstly, I would like to thank you for agreeing to this interview. It is an honour to be here speaking with you, Herr Schulthess.”
“Think nothing of it, Herr Eymer. I have plenty of time on my hands. I welcome the departure from my usual routine.”
Karl said, “I’d like to start with some historical questions. Helps to set the scene, I find. And it’s Adler policy, too.”
Schulthess gestured for him to continue.
Karl said, “People nowadays mostly recognise your actions in the Great War. You led the Reich to victory over the Bouclier, and brought Britain to its knees. But the human toll of the war was without parallel in the history of the world. Over thirty million people died in the war years. How could this happen? Was the Great War inevitable?”
A difficult question, but it had to be asked, and best soonest. The first paragraph of any article needed to capture the reader’s attention. And what better than an answer to one of the world’s more difficult questions? Schulthess had been at the heart of the diplomatic crises in Hungary and Croatia; many historians (though few in Germany) blamed him alone for starting the war.
Schulthess said, “With hindsight... yes, I would have to say that the war was inevitable.”
Karl had not expected that answer, but he knew better than to interrupt.
Schulthess continued, “Envy, it came down to. Britain had grown jealous of Germany and her achievements. When Britain dominated the world, she was happy to let Germany carry on. What mattered was who had the greater power. Britain was happy to use Germany for her own advantage. Take the second war we fought against a Bonaparte. Germany suffered more than any other nation. Britain was content to sit on the sidelines and do the building, while we did the dying.
“When Germany’s full power began to be realised, Britain feared that her throne at the top of the world might be usurped. They could have allowed Germany to blossom, and stood beside us as friends. Yet this was unacceptable in London, for they believed that Britain alone should rule the world. So she spurned the spirit of our alliance, forcing her will upon nations that dared to ask for change. Look at what they did in South Africa! Indeed, Britain’s new temper led to her own humiliation at the Americans’ hands.”
Karl tried to use the lull in the speech to move things closer to 1929. “If Britain had failed once, then why did they keep using imperialistic diplomacy in 1929, when their last experience should have told them the likely outcome?”
“Ah, by then she had gone too far down the path. In 1906, Britain could have curbed her aggression and embraced a more cooperative policy. But London feared looking weak more than they feared defeat. So the British kept on doing what they had, hoping that it would work, despite previous evidence to the contrary. Witness her hypocrisy over Hungary and Croatia. Britain had crushed free will in South Africa before us, and then demanded that we “acknowledge the wishes of the people” in the illegitimate governments in our Verein partners.”
“Why do you think that Britain interfered in the Verein, when it was clearly in our sphere of influence?”
Schulthess sighed. “She still believed that she ruled the world. Britain did not recognise that there were bounds to her power, and interfered in matters of state which was none of her affair. When we would not bow to Britain’s demands, she kept escalating the situation, closing the Suez Canal and starting the war. At the time it was not clear how foolish the British would be, but with hindsight it all comes together.”
Karl wondered whether he fully agreed with that, although it made a strange kind of sense. Britain had been the pre-eminent power of the nineteenth century, and would not accept that its status had changed in the twentieth.
“Well, that explains the origins of the war. What about its conduct? Your government guided Germany through that war, but your critics have said that the Treaty of Warsaw was a major blunder.”
Schulthess sipped tea for a moment, as if contemplating the question. After the pause, he said, “It is always easier to criticise than it is to govern. Critics find it easy to blame others for a decision which they did not have to take. It is another matter entirely if the critic found himself in a situation where he had to make that decision himself.”
“What were your reasons for signing the Warsaw Treaty, then?”
“Signing that treaty was not something I decided easily, but it was a necessary concession. We had more urgent matters to deal with. I regret the loss of Courland and the territory which Poland had to yield, but you cannot deny that what we gained far exceeded what we lost. And above all, we needed a secure eastern border. We had to fight one war at a time.”
“What do you mean?” Karl asked.
“A war on two fronts would have doomed us. Look at the Americans. They tried to fight two wars at once, in South America and in Europe. They could not win either, until they conceded defeat in one war to concentrate on the other. Thanks to the treaty, though, Germany had only one front. That gained us victory over the Bouclier. I think that the results speak for themselves.”
“Indeed they do, Herr Schulthess. But when we relieved Russia of the pressure on their western border, they went on to conquer most of Asia. Some have argued that the Treaty of Warsaw simply removed one power only to replace them with an even more dangerous foe. What do you think about the creation of the Russian Federation?”
Schulthess frowned. “Federation or Empire, what they call themselves does not matter. They have the same desire to dominate the globe which they always had. Their desire for land and conquest cannot be sated. It is only Germany’s clear strength which stops them from striking against us today. However, they were not shooting our soldiers or bombing our cities at the time. Better to make peace with them for a time, so that we could deal with Russia at an occasion of our choosing. I am sure that we will deal with them in due course.”
That last sentence worried Karl more than a little. He had been fortunately too young to fight in the Great War, but his father had fought in Italy and the south of France. While his father did not talk much about what happened there, it did not sound pleasant. If it came to a war with Russia now, Karl might find himself in the frontlines. The devastation that had been wrought on Europe a decade ago might be revisited. He hoped that vom Rath’s new government would avoid war at all costs.
“Let’s move on from the enemy created to the ones we defeated: France and Britain. Britain divided itself, so its fate was in its own hands. France, though, you dismantled. That choice has attracted some criticism.” This included most of the people in the French states, of course, but also some elements within Germany. “It does seem to be quite a... drastic measure, to split France into shards, and to recreate small states which have not existed for centuries.”
Schulthess sat straight up, his agitation clear. “France tried to strangle Germany when our nation first reunited, and she never abandoned her intentions. The Confederation War, the Swiss and Italian War, the Second Napoleonic Wars... Is it any wonder that by the time of the Great War, I could not allow France to remain united? Our nation’s security required nothing less than the break-up of the French state, a move which was in truth long overdue.”
Karl nodded, and moved on to the next question. “What of Britain’s fate, then? Was it in truth worth the cost of the war? We broke their home islands and England, Scotland and Cymru emerged from their ruin. Yet what of their colonies, who ignored the peace settlement we had negotiated with Britain, conquered many of our own colonies, and who now call themselves the Restored Empire? We have not stopped them; witness their recent activities in Rashidi Arabia.”
Schulthess chuckled, but before he could respond more fully, the maid reappeared. He nodded in her direction, then said, “Forgive an old man his habits, but I always take lunch at the same time. But I’d be delighted if you would join me. We could talk about less formal matters.”
“I would be delighted,” Karl said, and followed the maid as she wheeled Schulthess inside.
The lunch turned out to have much in common with Schulthess’s house: pleasant, comfortable, and altogether ordinary. The maid brought soup, bread, cold meat, and a hefty dose of tea.
While they ate, they talked at length about the Alps, Genoa – which both had visited and enjoyed, it turned out – and even at one point about trains, about which Schulthess had developed a recent interest. During the meal, Schulthess steered the conversation away from politics with a simple: “never mix business with pleasure.”
To continue the interview, they went back outside. “What were you asking me about?” Schulthess asked.
“The Restored Empire, and what it means for Germany,” Karl said.
“Ah, yes, that motley collection of disparate states. Their Empire is naught but a doomed experiment. Its constituent members are too varied, separated by geography, language, and heritage. Each has their own interests, which are much too divergent for them to hold together in the longer term. Given time, the Empire will collapse.”
“If that is so, does the same fate await our own Union?”
Schulthess said, “The GEEU has many nationalities, but it is distinct from the Empire. The Union is an economic and mutual defence pact. Its member states work together, but they remain separate states. The Empire, though, wants to be a single country. It is an impossibility to merge so many separate peoples into one state. I knew that when I set up the Union after the war. The Empire’s leaders should have known better, but they will learn their lesson soon enough.”
Karl hurriedly finished writing down Schulthess’s answer, then turned to his next question. “What, then, of our lost colonies? The Orient is lost to us, as is so much of Africa. What do you think that Germany should do about them?”
Schulthess took his time before answering that question. Eventually, he said, “I do not generally like to make statements about Germany should do now. I have already helped Germany with deeds; I have no need to meddle now with words. But I will say this: there is no need to hurry the reacquisition of our sundered colonies. The Empire will fall in time. Germany can address her lost colonies at a time of her choosing.”
Karl nodded, and considered how to phrase the next question. He doubted very much that Schulthess would like it, but it had to be asked. “Germany’s successes in the war are easy to recognise. We won the war in Europe and North Africa. Yet our allies in South America fell to the United States one by one. Even valiant Chile could not hold out forever. Now they are under the American yoke. Should Germany not have done more to save them?”
Schulthess frowned. “The Americans’ methods are deplorable; no civilized nation could endorse them. What other nation would elect a leader who proclaims “There are no innocent civilians”? Fire-squads are their most visible evil, but never forget that they threaten bondage for all the peoples of South America. The Brazilians suffer, the Peruvians are enslaved, the Chileans are persecuted, and the Argentines live in perpetual fear of the day the Americans will invade.”
His voice rose as he kept speaking. “Yet how could we have stopped the Americans? We needed to deal with Britain first, for they were the greater threat to us. We could do nothing to save South America with our homeland threatened with invasion. The blame, if it must be laid anywhere, lies with Britain and France. They made common cause with the Americans. They stopped us from helping our friends.”
Karl tried to calm the other man down. “I’m not questioning what we could do or not do. I was just asking for your thoughts.”
Schulthess took a deep breath, and visibly composed himself. “I understand. It’s just worth remembering that criticising decisions is easier than making them. Carry on, Herr Eymer.”
Karl said, “You’ve already said that you believe the GEEU will endure. But is its fate not bound to the event which created it? As you say, the Union is not an individual nation and does not try to be, but it was created in the aftermath of war, and it still needs soldiers to endure.”
Schulthess said, “Germany paid in blood to secure peace and stability in Europe. We will do whatever we need to do to maintain that peace. We cannot let our actions be dictated to us by terrorists.”
“Is it just terrorists, though? How many people in the former French states still think of themselves as French?”
“The majority, except perhaps for Brittany,” Schulthess said. Karl had to give him credit for honesty, at least.
“From such resentment, will terrorism not always spring? Almost from the moment that France was divided, organisations emerged and proclaimed their goal of French unification. The UMF and SNF are well-known for both their political and military efforts to regain French independence [1]. We had thought that they were the worst, until the Organisation Armée Secrète started bombing Frankfurt itself last year. Even if their bombs have stopped for now, their supporters still plaster their motto, “France is eternal,” on government buildings across the former France. Do you think that these French nationalists can ever be subdued?”
“Herr Eymer, one cannot expect new national identities to form overnight. Given time, people will consider themselves Burgundians, Gascons or Normans, rather than French. When that day comes, those nationalists and terrorists will fade away. They are a problem for now, but a manageable one, not an eternal one.”
Karl nodded. Schulthess had certainty in his beliefs, whatever else might be said of him. That led quite neatly to his next question. “While discussing current difficulties, we can hardly avoid mentioning some more international difficulties. What is your opinion of Germany’s conduct about those situations, particularly about the recent... events in Rashidi Arabia?”
Karl thought he could already guess the answer to this question. Schulthess had rarely spoken publicly, but it was no secret that he had always disagreed with the policies of then-Chancellor Karl-Heinz Blucher. Blucher’s leftist views were a considerable contrast with Schulthess’s, and indeed with the new Chancellor, Werner Wolfgang vom Rath.
Schulthess said, “Arabia can best be described as a fiasco. Blucher’s inability to stand up for German interests cost us dearly.”
Strong words, but not misplaced, Karl thought. The Rashidi Crisis had started with the death of Abdullah bin Hamud, the king of Rashidi Arabia, three years before. With no direct male heirs to his name, a disputed succession was inevitable in a nation so finely balanced between competing power blocs. Rashidi Arabia had been recognised as neutral territory between Germany and Russia after the war, but then neutrality meant very little in a world in the grips of a Silent War. What meant more was that Arabia sat atop the largest reserves of petroleum in the world.
Indeed, Arabian neutrality had been merely an excuse for the Powers to diplome more openly. Within Rashidi Arabia, the pro-German factions had coalesced around Mithab bin Adbul Aziz, while the pro-Restored Empire faction had coalesced around Mohammad bin Bandar. Both of those candidates were nephews of the late king. Mithab was elder, but a son of the king’s youngest brother. Mohammad was younger, but was the son of the elder of the late king’s surviving brothers. It had made for a fine mess, and gave the Powers plenty of scope for diplomatic intervention. Unfortunately, the pro-Empire faction won the struggle and placed Mohammad on the throne, not least thanks to Blucher’s unwillingness to commit German forces to oppose them [2].
Schulthess continued, “Blucher simply refused to give the necessary support to our friends within Arabia. The whole thing finished very badly; Germany should have ended up with a friendlier government there. Blucher lacked the credibility or the will to negotiate effectively with the superpowers. That hindered Germany’s global influence for the remainder of Blucher’s term in office.”
Karl had reached the end of his scripted questions, but he decided that now was the perfect opportunity to ask an unscripted question. Most of his questions had needed the tacit approval of the Der Adler executives, but those were also ones which Schulthess would expect. Perhaps an unexpected question would show more of the man’s character.
“What about the very peculiar diplomacy during the Crisis? At the time – and even since – I found it very strange that America would work with Germany to oppose Russia and Australia. Did you anticipate that would happen?”
Schulthess said, “An unusual situation, certainly, but then great nations do not have friends, only interests. It suited Germany’s priorities to accept O’Brien’s diplomatic assistance, for Russia is a direct threat where the United States is not. America can be dealt with by-and-by, but Russia is the only nation whose armies can threaten Germany’s heartland. As for Australia and her ‘Restored Empire,’ if it does not dissolve of its own accord, Germany can address that matter once Russia has been dealt with.”
Karl nodded. The questions were over now, except for ones about the future. Futurology had never been a successful science, but it would be interesting to hear what Schulthess thought. “I would like to ask one more question before we finish. The times we live in now are perilous, and the world is unpredictable. What do you think the future holds for Germany and the world?”
Schulthess went quiet for a long moment while he considered the question. “The future can never be certain, of course, but I believe that the modern world was shaped by the war. Or, more precisely, how the war ended. The Great War ended with each of the victors – including Germany – achieving their greatest goal, but not all of their goals. Now the superpowers dominate the world, but their ambitions are unsated. So, ever since, we have had the Silent War.”
Schulthess coughed, then continued, “The silence will not last forever, though. Russia has never abandoned its desire to dominate the globe. Germany must remain strong in preparation for that moment. As for the rest of the world, the Restored Empire, as I have said, will take care of itself. And some day, the United States will pay the price for their crimes and the bondage they have inflicted on the nations.”
Karl nodded, rose, and said, “Thank you for your time, Herr Schulthess.”
“It was my pleasure, Herr Eymer.”
Karl bowed, then followed the maid to the front door. It was a pity that the interview had to end, really. The afternoon had been far too brief, and Karl doubted that he would ever have the pleasure of a second interview. Given how old the former Chancellor looked, this interview might even be the last one he ever gave.
He stepped outside onto the road. The road had gone dark quickly, as always happened so close to winter. Karl checked that his briefcase was properly closed, tucked his overcoat close around him, and started to walk to the train station. He had a slight smile on his face, although he was only barely aware of it. He knew that this interview would sell well with the German people, and probably even the whole of Europe. It would certainly be interesting to find out what one of the most important men in history thought.
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[1] The Union Militaire Française and Solidarité Nationale Française are two of the more well-known groups of terrorists (or freedom fighters, depending on who you ask) in France.
[2] The pro-German faction had weaker support within Rashidi Arabia, although neither Schulthess nor Eymer would admit that, even to themselves.
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Thoughts?
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25 November 1941
Brugg, Duchy of Aargau
German Empire
Karl Eymer knocked at the rather plain door, and waited patiently for someone to answer it. The time dragged on for longer than he would have expected, but he could wait. Der Adler had carried several of his interviews with famous people; his personal favourite was his revealing chat with the actress Liesa Graebsch.
This, though, was something altogether different. He had never interviewed someone of such importance. A sign of his boss’s trust, he hoped.
After a few moments, he knocked again. This time, a maid came to answer the door. She looked barely thirty, if that. “Who are you?” she demanded.
“Karl Eymer. I have an appointment with Herr Schulthess.”
The maid looked coolly at him, as if to say, “And so?”
Eymer cleared his throat. “I’m a reporter from Frankfurt, for Der Adler. Herr Schulthess has agreed to an interview to discuss recent events... and anything else of interest.”
The woman nodded. “Please come with me.” She led Karl through the house.
The décor was much simpler than he had expected for the man who won the greatest war in history and redrew the map of the world. He would have expected that such a man would decorate his house with treasures of conquest, or at least some ornate signs of wealth. Edmund Schulthess was far from a poor man, but his house did not show it. Karl caught glimpses of a few rooms as he passed: a study with a full bookshelf that filled an entire wall; a dining room dominated by a single large table; and a conservatory with large windows that revealed a stunning landscape beyond.
The maid brought him through to the garden. Schulthess sat there, wheelchair-bound, reading a book. The former Chancellor looked to be on – or rather, off – his last legs. Hardly unexpected for the man who led Germany through its darkest days since the Second Napoleonic Wars. The weight of that struggle would have taken its toll on any man. Karl had done his research; he knew that Schulthess was 73 years old. It was a miracle that the man had lived for so long.
When Schulthess slowly raised his head from the pages of his book, he seemed more like a grandfather than a world leader. Yet appearances could so often deceive. This was the man who had overseen the Great War, and in its aftermath founded the Greater European Economic Union and overseen the breakup of France, the ancient enemy. Most infamously, he had signed the Treaty of Warsaw.
“Ah, Herr Eymer, I hope you had a comfortable journey. Fresh air never hurt anyone, and it must be a change from the air you find in Frankfurt these days.”
“A very pleasant journey, thank you, sir. I hope I’m not interrupting anything important.”
“Nonsense,” said Schulthess. “These days, I have all the time in the world. Retirement has its privileges. Can you imagine me having time to read anything by Goethe in 1929? Now, I have his whole collected works on my shelves, waiting to be discovered one by one. And many other authors await my pleasure. I’ve only recently discovered Grillparzer’s works. I never found time to read the War of the Clouds in my childhood.”
Schulthess paused, then said, “Anyway, let us begin.”
Karl took out his notebook and pen, ready to write quickly when he needed. Shorthand was so useful. He glanced over at the River Reuss while he collected his thoughts.
“Firstly, I would like to thank you for agreeing to this interview. It is an honour to be here speaking with you, Herr Schulthess.”
“Think nothing of it, Herr Eymer. I have plenty of time on my hands. I welcome the departure from my usual routine.”
Karl said, “I’d like to start with some historical questions. Helps to set the scene, I find. And it’s Adler policy, too.”
Schulthess gestured for him to continue.
Karl said, “People nowadays mostly recognise your actions in the Great War. You led the Reich to victory over the Bouclier, and brought Britain to its knees. But the human toll of the war was without parallel in the history of the world. Over thirty million people died in the war years. How could this happen? Was the Great War inevitable?”
A difficult question, but it had to be asked, and best soonest. The first paragraph of any article needed to capture the reader’s attention. And what better than an answer to one of the world’s more difficult questions? Schulthess had been at the heart of the diplomatic crises in Hungary and Croatia; many historians (though few in Germany) blamed him alone for starting the war.
Schulthess said, “With hindsight... yes, I would have to say that the war was inevitable.”
Karl had not expected that answer, but he knew better than to interrupt.
Schulthess continued, “Envy, it came down to. Britain had grown jealous of Germany and her achievements. When Britain dominated the world, she was happy to let Germany carry on. What mattered was who had the greater power. Britain was happy to use Germany for her own advantage. Take the second war we fought against a Bonaparte. Germany suffered more than any other nation. Britain was content to sit on the sidelines and do the building, while we did the dying.
“When Germany’s full power began to be realised, Britain feared that her throne at the top of the world might be usurped. They could have allowed Germany to blossom, and stood beside us as friends. Yet this was unacceptable in London, for they believed that Britain alone should rule the world. So she spurned the spirit of our alliance, forcing her will upon nations that dared to ask for change. Look at what they did in South Africa! Indeed, Britain’s new temper led to her own humiliation at the Americans’ hands.”
Karl tried to use the lull in the speech to move things closer to 1929. “If Britain had failed once, then why did they keep using imperialistic diplomacy in 1929, when their last experience should have told them the likely outcome?”
“Ah, by then she had gone too far down the path. In 1906, Britain could have curbed her aggression and embraced a more cooperative policy. But London feared looking weak more than they feared defeat. So the British kept on doing what they had, hoping that it would work, despite previous evidence to the contrary. Witness her hypocrisy over Hungary and Croatia. Britain had crushed free will in South Africa before us, and then demanded that we “acknowledge the wishes of the people” in the illegitimate governments in our Verein partners.”
“Why do you think that Britain interfered in the Verein, when it was clearly in our sphere of influence?”
Schulthess sighed. “She still believed that she ruled the world. Britain did not recognise that there were bounds to her power, and interfered in matters of state which was none of her affair. When we would not bow to Britain’s demands, she kept escalating the situation, closing the Suez Canal and starting the war. At the time it was not clear how foolish the British would be, but with hindsight it all comes together.”
Karl wondered whether he fully agreed with that, although it made a strange kind of sense. Britain had been the pre-eminent power of the nineteenth century, and would not accept that its status had changed in the twentieth.
“Well, that explains the origins of the war. What about its conduct? Your government guided Germany through that war, but your critics have said that the Treaty of Warsaw was a major blunder.”
Schulthess sipped tea for a moment, as if contemplating the question. After the pause, he said, “It is always easier to criticise than it is to govern. Critics find it easy to blame others for a decision which they did not have to take. It is another matter entirely if the critic found himself in a situation where he had to make that decision himself.”
“What were your reasons for signing the Warsaw Treaty, then?”
“Signing that treaty was not something I decided easily, but it was a necessary concession. We had more urgent matters to deal with. I regret the loss of Courland and the territory which Poland had to yield, but you cannot deny that what we gained far exceeded what we lost. And above all, we needed a secure eastern border. We had to fight one war at a time.”
“What do you mean?” Karl asked.
“A war on two fronts would have doomed us. Look at the Americans. They tried to fight two wars at once, in South America and in Europe. They could not win either, until they conceded defeat in one war to concentrate on the other. Thanks to the treaty, though, Germany had only one front. That gained us victory over the Bouclier. I think that the results speak for themselves.”
“Indeed they do, Herr Schulthess. But when we relieved Russia of the pressure on their western border, they went on to conquer most of Asia. Some have argued that the Treaty of Warsaw simply removed one power only to replace them with an even more dangerous foe. What do you think about the creation of the Russian Federation?”
Schulthess frowned. “Federation or Empire, what they call themselves does not matter. They have the same desire to dominate the globe which they always had. Their desire for land and conquest cannot be sated. It is only Germany’s clear strength which stops them from striking against us today. However, they were not shooting our soldiers or bombing our cities at the time. Better to make peace with them for a time, so that we could deal with Russia at an occasion of our choosing. I am sure that we will deal with them in due course.”
That last sentence worried Karl more than a little. He had been fortunately too young to fight in the Great War, but his father had fought in Italy and the south of France. While his father did not talk much about what happened there, it did not sound pleasant. If it came to a war with Russia now, Karl might find himself in the frontlines. The devastation that had been wrought on Europe a decade ago might be revisited. He hoped that vom Rath’s new government would avoid war at all costs.
“Let’s move on from the enemy created to the ones we defeated: France and Britain. Britain divided itself, so its fate was in its own hands. France, though, you dismantled. That choice has attracted some criticism.” This included most of the people in the French states, of course, but also some elements within Germany. “It does seem to be quite a... drastic measure, to split France into shards, and to recreate small states which have not existed for centuries.”
Schulthess sat straight up, his agitation clear. “France tried to strangle Germany when our nation first reunited, and she never abandoned her intentions. The Confederation War, the Swiss and Italian War, the Second Napoleonic Wars... Is it any wonder that by the time of the Great War, I could not allow France to remain united? Our nation’s security required nothing less than the break-up of the French state, a move which was in truth long overdue.”
Karl nodded, and moved on to the next question. “What of Britain’s fate, then? Was it in truth worth the cost of the war? We broke their home islands and England, Scotland and Cymru emerged from their ruin. Yet what of their colonies, who ignored the peace settlement we had negotiated with Britain, conquered many of our own colonies, and who now call themselves the Restored Empire? We have not stopped them; witness their recent activities in Rashidi Arabia.”
Schulthess chuckled, but before he could respond more fully, the maid reappeared. He nodded in her direction, then said, “Forgive an old man his habits, but I always take lunch at the same time. But I’d be delighted if you would join me. We could talk about less formal matters.”
“I would be delighted,” Karl said, and followed the maid as she wheeled Schulthess inside.
The lunch turned out to have much in common with Schulthess’s house: pleasant, comfortable, and altogether ordinary. The maid brought soup, bread, cold meat, and a hefty dose of tea.
While they ate, they talked at length about the Alps, Genoa – which both had visited and enjoyed, it turned out – and even at one point about trains, about which Schulthess had developed a recent interest. During the meal, Schulthess steered the conversation away from politics with a simple: “never mix business with pleasure.”
To continue the interview, they went back outside. “What were you asking me about?” Schulthess asked.
“The Restored Empire, and what it means for Germany,” Karl said.
“Ah, yes, that motley collection of disparate states. Their Empire is naught but a doomed experiment. Its constituent members are too varied, separated by geography, language, and heritage. Each has their own interests, which are much too divergent for them to hold together in the longer term. Given time, the Empire will collapse.”
“If that is so, does the same fate await our own Union?”
Schulthess said, “The GEEU has many nationalities, but it is distinct from the Empire. The Union is an economic and mutual defence pact. Its member states work together, but they remain separate states. The Empire, though, wants to be a single country. It is an impossibility to merge so many separate peoples into one state. I knew that when I set up the Union after the war. The Empire’s leaders should have known better, but they will learn their lesson soon enough.”
Karl hurriedly finished writing down Schulthess’s answer, then turned to his next question. “What, then, of our lost colonies? The Orient is lost to us, as is so much of Africa. What do you think that Germany should do about them?”
Schulthess took his time before answering that question. Eventually, he said, “I do not generally like to make statements about Germany should do now. I have already helped Germany with deeds; I have no need to meddle now with words. But I will say this: there is no need to hurry the reacquisition of our sundered colonies. The Empire will fall in time. Germany can address her lost colonies at a time of her choosing.”
Karl nodded, and considered how to phrase the next question. He doubted very much that Schulthess would like it, but it had to be asked. “Germany’s successes in the war are easy to recognise. We won the war in Europe and North Africa. Yet our allies in South America fell to the United States one by one. Even valiant Chile could not hold out forever. Now they are under the American yoke. Should Germany not have done more to save them?”
Schulthess frowned. “The Americans’ methods are deplorable; no civilized nation could endorse them. What other nation would elect a leader who proclaims “There are no innocent civilians”? Fire-squads are their most visible evil, but never forget that they threaten bondage for all the peoples of South America. The Brazilians suffer, the Peruvians are enslaved, the Chileans are persecuted, and the Argentines live in perpetual fear of the day the Americans will invade.”
His voice rose as he kept speaking. “Yet how could we have stopped the Americans? We needed to deal with Britain first, for they were the greater threat to us. We could do nothing to save South America with our homeland threatened with invasion. The blame, if it must be laid anywhere, lies with Britain and France. They made common cause with the Americans. They stopped us from helping our friends.”
Karl tried to calm the other man down. “I’m not questioning what we could do or not do. I was just asking for your thoughts.”
Schulthess took a deep breath, and visibly composed himself. “I understand. It’s just worth remembering that criticising decisions is easier than making them. Carry on, Herr Eymer.”
Karl said, “You’ve already said that you believe the GEEU will endure. But is its fate not bound to the event which created it? As you say, the Union is not an individual nation and does not try to be, but it was created in the aftermath of war, and it still needs soldiers to endure.”
Schulthess said, “Germany paid in blood to secure peace and stability in Europe. We will do whatever we need to do to maintain that peace. We cannot let our actions be dictated to us by terrorists.”
“Is it just terrorists, though? How many people in the former French states still think of themselves as French?”
“The majority, except perhaps for Brittany,” Schulthess said. Karl had to give him credit for honesty, at least.
“From such resentment, will terrorism not always spring? Almost from the moment that France was divided, organisations emerged and proclaimed their goal of French unification. The UMF and SNF are well-known for both their political and military efforts to regain French independence [1]. We had thought that they were the worst, until the Organisation Armée Secrète started bombing Frankfurt itself last year. Even if their bombs have stopped for now, their supporters still plaster their motto, “France is eternal,” on government buildings across the former France. Do you think that these French nationalists can ever be subdued?”
“Herr Eymer, one cannot expect new national identities to form overnight. Given time, people will consider themselves Burgundians, Gascons or Normans, rather than French. When that day comes, those nationalists and terrorists will fade away. They are a problem for now, but a manageable one, not an eternal one.”
Karl nodded. Schulthess had certainty in his beliefs, whatever else might be said of him. That led quite neatly to his next question. “While discussing current difficulties, we can hardly avoid mentioning some more international difficulties. What is your opinion of Germany’s conduct about those situations, particularly about the recent... events in Rashidi Arabia?”
Karl thought he could already guess the answer to this question. Schulthess had rarely spoken publicly, but it was no secret that he had always disagreed with the policies of then-Chancellor Karl-Heinz Blucher. Blucher’s leftist views were a considerable contrast with Schulthess’s, and indeed with the new Chancellor, Werner Wolfgang vom Rath.
Schulthess said, “Arabia can best be described as a fiasco. Blucher’s inability to stand up for German interests cost us dearly.”
Strong words, but not misplaced, Karl thought. The Rashidi Crisis had started with the death of Abdullah bin Hamud, the king of Rashidi Arabia, three years before. With no direct male heirs to his name, a disputed succession was inevitable in a nation so finely balanced between competing power blocs. Rashidi Arabia had been recognised as neutral territory between Germany and Russia after the war, but then neutrality meant very little in a world in the grips of a Silent War. What meant more was that Arabia sat atop the largest reserves of petroleum in the world.
Indeed, Arabian neutrality had been merely an excuse for the Powers to diplome more openly. Within Rashidi Arabia, the pro-German factions had coalesced around Mithab bin Adbul Aziz, while the pro-Restored Empire faction had coalesced around Mohammad bin Bandar. Both of those candidates were nephews of the late king. Mithab was elder, but a son of the king’s youngest brother. Mohammad was younger, but was the son of the elder of the late king’s surviving brothers. It had made for a fine mess, and gave the Powers plenty of scope for diplomatic intervention. Unfortunately, the pro-Empire faction won the struggle and placed Mohammad on the throne, not least thanks to Blucher’s unwillingness to commit German forces to oppose them [2].
Schulthess continued, “Blucher simply refused to give the necessary support to our friends within Arabia. The whole thing finished very badly; Germany should have ended up with a friendlier government there. Blucher lacked the credibility or the will to negotiate effectively with the superpowers. That hindered Germany’s global influence for the remainder of Blucher’s term in office.”
Karl had reached the end of his scripted questions, but he decided that now was the perfect opportunity to ask an unscripted question. Most of his questions had needed the tacit approval of the Der Adler executives, but those were also ones which Schulthess would expect. Perhaps an unexpected question would show more of the man’s character.
“What about the very peculiar diplomacy during the Crisis? At the time – and even since – I found it very strange that America would work with Germany to oppose Russia and Australia. Did you anticipate that would happen?”
Schulthess said, “An unusual situation, certainly, but then great nations do not have friends, only interests. It suited Germany’s priorities to accept O’Brien’s diplomatic assistance, for Russia is a direct threat where the United States is not. America can be dealt with by-and-by, but Russia is the only nation whose armies can threaten Germany’s heartland. As for Australia and her ‘Restored Empire,’ if it does not dissolve of its own accord, Germany can address that matter once Russia has been dealt with.”
Karl nodded. The questions were over now, except for ones about the future. Futurology had never been a successful science, but it would be interesting to hear what Schulthess thought. “I would like to ask one more question before we finish. The times we live in now are perilous, and the world is unpredictable. What do you think the future holds for Germany and the world?”
Schulthess went quiet for a long moment while he considered the question. “The future can never be certain, of course, but I believe that the modern world was shaped by the war. Or, more precisely, how the war ended. The Great War ended with each of the victors – including Germany – achieving their greatest goal, but not all of their goals. Now the superpowers dominate the world, but their ambitions are unsated. So, ever since, we have had the Silent War.”
Schulthess coughed, then continued, “The silence will not last forever, though. Russia has never abandoned its desire to dominate the globe. Germany must remain strong in preparation for that moment. As for the rest of the world, the Restored Empire, as I have said, will take care of itself. And some day, the United States will pay the price for their crimes and the bondage they have inflicted on the nations.”
Karl nodded, rose, and said, “Thank you for your time, Herr Schulthess.”
“It was my pleasure, Herr Eymer.”
Karl bowed, then followed the maid to the front door. It was a pity that the interview had to end, really. The afternoon had been far too brief, and Karl doubted that he would ever have the pleasure of a second interview. Given how old the former Chancellor looked, this interview might even be the last one he ever gave.
He stepped outside onto the road. The road had gone dark quickly, as always happened so close to winter. Karl checked that his briefcase was properly closed, tucked his overcoat close around him, and started to walk to the train station. He had a slight smile on his face, although he was only barely aware of it. He knew that this interview would sell well with the German people, and probably even the whole of Europe. It would certainly be interesting to find out what one of the most important men in history thought.
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[1] The Union Militaire Française and Solidarité Nationale Française are two of the more well-known groups of terrorists (or freedom fighters, depending on who you ask) in France.
[2] The pro-German faction had weaker support within Rashidi Arabia, although neither Schulthess nor Eymer would admit that, even to themselves.
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